TFB EXCLUSIVE: Pre-Production Development of The CZ P-10 C – Part 3
TFB EXCLUSIVE: Pre-Production Development of The CZ P-10 C – Part 3
The CZ P-10 family has grown. CZ started with P-10 C and decided to expand the family to cover both subcompact and full-size guns. The CZ P-10 C is called a compact gun, but I like to consider it less than full size. It is bigger than a Glock 19, with a longer grip. It doesn’t quite fall into the category of a compact pistol in my opinion. I won’t lie, I do wish there was a slightly shorter grip version of the P-10 C, similar to what FN did with the 509M. CZ knocked it out of the park with their other two guns. The CZ P-10 F and the CZ P-10 S. This new family did come with some significant changes.
Triggers
The triggers have slightly changed since the production model “Gen 1” P-10 C. They are now longer, closer to the trigger guard. The safety blade or “dingus” has also shortened up and has a slightly smaller profile compared to the Gen 1 dingus.
The “Gen 2” modeled guns don’t have much trigger pinch if you ride the trigger low to the trigger guard. It’s a lot more manageable and avoidable than the P-10 C Gen 1 production model. The trigger on the Gen 2 models also feels slightly smoother. They are still around the same poundage pull.
Optic Ready Systems
CZ has introduced optic ready P-10 series pistols. The optic ready pistols are produced by CZ-USA and are not being produced by CZUB yet. Pistol optics are a much more popular trend in the United States than overseas, for now. To be on top of your game as a pistol manufacturer in the United States, you absolutely must have optic ready series pistols. It is the only way to compete in the market.
CZ USA produces the optic ready system that comes with a flush fit plate as a placeholder for their optic ready Plate System.
CZ-USA vs CZUB Gen 2 Sights
Mag Release Change
CZ decided to produce a larger more tactile magazine release that was unidirectional. It can be reversed for a left-handed shooter. Now the system is no longer fully ambidextrous. As a right-handed shooter using the newer magazine release, I do find the Gen 2 magazine release to be easier to use and to get to in a hurry.
It makes left-hand manipulations more difficult. Double-edged sword when making changes like this. Myself and many of my colleagues also agree that this change was necessary to make the masses happy, but was a change that made many career shooters unhappy. Thank you to all the cry babies that ruined a good thing.
MAGAZINE BODY CHANGE
Steel Guide Rod Captured assembly
The newer P-10 Gen 2 guns have been shipping with steel guide rod assemblies. I do like this change over the plastic captured guide rod systems that have been traditionally installed in the P-07, P-09, and P-10 C Gen 1 models. A more sturdy guide rod can increase the mechanical accuracy of a firearm. One thing to note, the assembly is captured by a screw (all P-Series models, excluding the P-10 S). Introduction of screws in guide rod systems has historically been a failure point. I would recommend Red Loctite this Allen screw.
Barrels are different on CZ-USA Guns Vs CZUB Guns
The barrels on Czech made guns are cold-hammer-forged at the CZUB factory. An absolutely impressive facility making some of the best pistol barrels in the world. The CZ-USA barrels are made in the USA and are not cold hammer forged. These US made barrels are found in the OR Gen 2 models only at this time. They are still a high quality produced barrel. I think the only notable difference would be at very high round count barrel life. The CZUB barrels are easy 100K round count barrels. I personally only have around 27K rounds through my SP-01 and there are no signs of wear or lands and groove reduction. It would be very interesting to see a round count comparison between the US and Czech made barrels.
P-10 S
- MSRP – $577
- Chambering – 9mm Luger
- Magazine Capacity – 12+1
- Frame – Fiber-reinforced polymer
- Trigger Mech – Striker
- Sights – Front tritium night sight, rear serrated combat sight
- Barrel Length – 3.5″
- Width – 1.26 in
- Weight – 24.4 oz
- Overall Length – 6.6 in
- Safety – Firing Pin Block Safety, Trigger Safety
Do not put a P-10 S slide on a P-10 C frame with a compensator. The recoil spring assembly for the P-10 S does not fit inside the P-10 C. The gun itself is slightly more snappy than the P-10 C during firing. The factory magazine bottoms are too short to get a pinky on for a nearly full grip. I do recommend an aftermarket magazine base plate for the P-10 S to increase grip length. ANVL weighted base pad on the S pictured.
P-10 F
The P-10 F is a beautifully produced pistol. The P-10 F has a slightly longer grip than a Glock 17, transforming the P-10 F series into an excellent choice of duty style and sized pistol. It has two 1913 Picatinny slots. Unsure what one of the two is for, as I cannot find any lights that fit specifically in the second slot.
- MSRP – $524
- Chambering – 9mm Luger
- Magazine Capacity –19+1
- Frame – Fiber-reinforced polymer
- Trigger Mech – Striker
- Sights – Fixed Three-Dot
- Barrel – Cold Hammer Forged
- Barrel Length – 4.5″
- Width – 1.26 in
- Weight – 28.2oz
- Overall Length – 8 in
- Safety – Firing Pin Block Safety, Trigger Safety
P-10 Family Moving Forward
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I love my P10C. Really want a P10SC if they'll ever release them....
Optics ready P10C is produced in Czech republic. Why do you claim it is not?